Only divine intervention can assure justice for Anwar
Posted by: "Aliran" aliran@streamyx.com
Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:22 pm (PST)
Aliran media statement
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*Only divine intervention can assure justice for Anwar *
Anwar can forget about getting justice from the Malaysian judicial
system. Rules can be bent, rules can be ignored, rules can be overlooked
when it involves Anwar. This is what the man in the street is saying.
We witnessed this nauseating so-called judicial process in both the
trials concerning Anwar's sodomy and corruption trials in 1999. In the
first sodomy trial the charges were amended three times because the
authorities did not know the definite date to conclusively state when
the so-called sodomy was believed to have taken place then.
In the corruption trial, the presiding judge made it so difficult for
the defence to mount a serious challenge to the charge. The judge even
decided that he should be convinced of the relevance of the point before
the defence was allowed to question the prosecution witnesses. It was so
outrageously unjust that it led Malaysians to believe that Anwar had to
be convicted no matter what.
Are we witnessing a similar scenario in this instance where Anwar is on
trial for the second time charged with, of all things, another sodomy?
The way things are moving, it seems, only divine intervention can save
him from the injustice he is being subjected to.
Today's ruling (25 February 2010) by the Federal Court refusing to
review an earlier Federal Court decision has an unsettling effect on our
system of justice.
Solicitor general II Mohd Yusof Zainal Abiden had argued that the court
is not empowered to review its decision. A review can only (be) granted
if the applicant manages to prove that "there was an error in law" and
only in extremely rare cases is a review granted (Malaysian Insider).
There may not be "an error in law" but what course of remedy is open to
the litigant when there was an error in justice? When such error
involving justice is so apparent, should the court turn a blind eye to
the injustice?
We are made to understand that Rule 137 of the rules of the Federal
Court stipulates that the court had limited power to decide on a review
of its own decision "to prevent injustice or to prevent an abuse of the
process of the court" (Malaysian Insider).
Is this the reason why the law is sometimes referred to as an ass? Does
this mean that an injustice and an abuse of the process of court can be
tolerated and condoned by the court? Is this what rule of law is all about?
Why is Anwar being denied the list of witnesses? Why is he denied
additional information and evidence which is so crucial to his defence?
Is it meant to crucify him by all means as many believe it to be?
Shouldn't the court, in all fairness, order this vital information be
given to him so that the three foreign experts who are here can advise
Anwar's team of lawyers as to how to counter the so-called evidence with
the prosecution?
Strangely, the court has also ruled that in spite of the fact that there
was no penetration according to medical evidence, it will not dismiss
the case as there is other corroborating evidence to support the charge.
Normally, penetration is most crucial in the case of rape and sodomy. In
such an eventuality, other corroborating evidence may lend credence to
the charge but without any positive evidence of penetration what
credibility would this charge hold in any fair trial?
In the words of Lord Devlin, the court process "is to provide a
civilized method of settling disputes. It is ...to remove a sense of
injustice."
Unfortunately, we have not witnessed this truth so far. The injustice
has not been removed by any stretch of the imagination.
P Ramakrishnan
President
25 February 2010
Sunday, February 28, 2010
Monday, February 22, 2010
Malaysia defence minister should RESIGN AS THE FIRST submarine unable to dive..shame, shame, shame!!!!!!
Malaysia says first submarine unable to dive
Navy News — By Agence France-Presse on February 12, 2010 at 6:32 am
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Kuala Lumpur: Malaysia's first submarine, a European-made Scorpene delivered last September, has developed problems that make it unfit for diving, the defence minister said Thursday.
The KD Tunku Abdul Rahman sailed into a grand reception last year as the first of two commissioned from French contractor DCNS and Spain's Navantia for a total of 3.4 billion ringgit (961 million dollars).
Named after the country's first prime minister, it was hailed as an important acquisition despite opposition allegations of corruption in the deal.
"The submarine can still dive but when we detected the defects, we were advised that it should not dive," Defence Minister Ahmad Zahid Hamidi told reporters.
"The (parts found with) defects are still under warranty so the supplier and contractor are repairing them," he added.
Navy chief Abdul Aziz Jaafar said a problem first emerged in the submarine's cooling system last December. After being fixed, another defect was identified in a different system last month.
"We hope it can dive again after February 18 so we can carry out the tropical water trials," Abdul Aziz told reporters.
The navy chief said the second submarine, the KD Tun Razak which is named after the nation's second premier, is expected to arrive from France on May 31. It was originally scheduled for delivery in late 2009.
The two submarines have attracted controversy since the deal was signed in 2002.
Malaysia's opposition claims that a 540-million-ringgit commission was paid to a close associate of Prime Minister Najib Razak in brokering the contract.
Najib has denied there was any corruption in the deal, which was made when he was defence minister.
http://www.defencetalk.com/malaysia-first-submarine-unable-to-dive-24168/
Navy News — By Agence France-Presse on February 12, 2010 at 6:32 am
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Kuala Lumpur: Malaysia's first submarine, a European-made Scorpene delivered last September, has developed problems that make it unfit for diving, the defence minister said Thursday.
The KD Tunku Abdul Rahman sailed into a grand reception last year as the first of two commissioned from French contractor DCNS and Spain's Navantia for a total of 3.4 billion ringgit (961 million dollars).
Named after the country's first prime minister, it was hailed as an important acquisition despite opposition allegations of corruption in the deal.
"The submarine can still dive but when we detected the defects, we were advised that it should not dive," Defence Minister Ahmad Zahid Hamidi told reporters.
"The (parts found with) defects are still under warranty so the supplier and contractor are repairing them," he added.
Navy chief Abdul Aziz Jaafar said a problem first emerged in the submarine's cooling system last December. After being fixed, another defect was identified in a different system last month.
"We hope it can dive again after February 18 so we can carry out the tropical water trials," Abdul Aziz told reporters.
The navy chief said the second submarine, the KD Tun Razak which is named after the nation's second premier, is expected to arrive from France on May 31. It was originally scheduled for delivery in late 2009.
The two submarines have attracted controversy since the deal was signed in 2002.
Malaysia's opposition claims that a 540-million-ringgit commission was paid to a close associate of Prime Minister Najib Razak in brokering the contract.
Najib has denied there was any corruption in the deal, which was made when he was defence minister.
http://www.defencetalk.com/malaysia-first-submarine-unable-to-dive-24168/
Monday, February 8, 2010
People and residents at Taman Kajang Prima, Kajang are wondering why the security is so bad!!!Somethings must be done, NOW!!!
People and residents at Taman Kajang Prima, Kajang are wondering why the security is so bad!!!!!
Thieves are hanging around Jalan KP 2/16,Taman Kajang Prima, Kajang, Selangor.
16/01, thief entered a house at 35, Jalan KP 2/16,Taman Kajang Prima, Kajang, and last Sunday 07/02, thief came again but entered the house located at 31, Jalan KP 2/16,Taman Kajang Prima, Kajang..........
The thieves (said to be in 2 cars) are using the same tactic, i.e. cut-off the alarm wire at the alarm box, then tried to go in thru window...
The residents at the back of 2nd house managed to take the picture of the thief (An Indian youngster) and passed to the Kajang Police...............
But until today no any latest news yet...............
People and residents at Taman Kajang Prima, Kajang are wondering why the security is so bad!!!!!
Somethings must be done, NOW!
Thieves are hanging around Jalan KP 2/16,Taman Kajang Prima, Kajang, Selangor.
16/01, thief entered a house at 35, Jalan KP 2/16,Taman Kajang Prima, Kajang, and last Sunday 07/02, thief came again but entered the house located at 31, Jalan KP 2/16,Taman Kajang Prima, Kajang..........
The thieves (said to be in 2 cars) are using the same tactic, i.e. cut-off the alarm wire at the alarm box, then tried to go in thru window...
The residents at the back of 2nd house managed to take the picture of the thief (An Indian youngster) and passed to the Kajang Police...............
But until today no any latest news yet...............
People and residents at Taman Kajang Prima, Kajang are wondering why the security is so bad!!!!!
Somethings must be done, NOW!
DEMOCRACY IS DEAD
Malaysia has forgotten Tunku, and Tunku would not recognise Malaysia – Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah
FEB 8 – Tunku Abdul Rahman was the founder of Malaysia. That has been obscured by an intervening period in which his memory has been brushed out of our national consciousness.
He brought together a Malaysia that had come together “through our own free will and desire in the true spirit of brotherhood and love of freedom”, in a union arrived at “by mutual consent by debate and discussion…through friendly argument and compromise,” and “in the spirit of co-operation and concord.”
This was the basis for Malaysia he worked for and established, and that his life embodied. That basis has been replaced by something alien to it, his memory has been suppressed, and our history revised.
Part of the reason our collective memory of Tunku has faded, and that Tunku would not recognise today’s Malaysia, is that Tunku and his generation built institutions that empowered the people rather than cults of personality to concentrate power and wealth in themselves. They reached instinctively for democratic decision-making. The concepts and precepts of constitutional democracy were part of their natural vocabulary and instinctive reactions. They knew who the country belonged to, and that they lived to serve.
The day of Tunku’s funeral was not even declared a public holiday. It is no accident that the erasure of his memory has gone hand in hand with the erosion of our institutions. Tunku built up a system of good civil service in which ordinary citizens did not need to see so-and-so to get things done. This has been replaced by a domineering style of leadership in which what you get done depends on who you know. Of course the rich and powerful have better connections.
In place of the protection for ordinary citizens guaranteed by popular representation, rule of law and the checks and balances of independent institutions, we have the cult of the great leader.
In place of a system which designed to assure the rights of the ordinary citizen we have a system re-designed around the interests of corporate and political bosses.
Ordinary Malaysians are disenfranchised of their rights to health, education and security. They are then patronised by leaders whose idea of public service is to go around like Father Christmas doling out gifts of resources which are really the property of the people. This turns citizens into supplicants. Our properties are converted into gifts from the great leader. Our rights are converted into permissions. Our country has become his country.
There has been, over the years since his passing, a quite deliberate erasure of our memory of Tunku. This should come as no surprise. He saw the wrong turn we were taking and he opposed it. He and several other leaders were excluded from UMNO Baru. He led a movement called Semangat 46. His conception of our politics and system of government had no place for corrupt practices, arbitrary executive power and the manipulation of racial and religious identity for political gain.
Tunku Abdul Rahman did not help us achieve independence and then the merger, alone. He led and worked with an entire class of individuals schooled in the culture and practice of parliamentary democracy. In politics and the civil service they thrived in a time before the machine politics of patronage and lowbrow identity politics had sucked the life and talent out of the ruling party and left it filled with people who quite simply don’t have the ability to hold this country together anymore.
The average age of our first cabinet was under thirty. Tun Razak was 28. Tun Dr Ismail was barely 30 years old. Men of their calibre would not have made it up the ladder of the party that has succeeded theirs. They would have been too untainted, too young to do so.
The IDEAS project looks back, then, not just to an individual but to an era in Malaysia’s brief history. It will promote the values and principles on which we were formed.
Over the course of that history we have not trodden a continuous path to the present day. There have been two regimes, or political dispensations, in the life of this country, young as she is.
The first began in the fifties and ended in 1970. The dispensation that followed came to a mortal crisis in 1997 and limped on to 2008. Against the background of those changes, what has followed the elections of March 2008 is hard to describe as anything but the detritus of a once-functioning political system.
If any one of us was tempted to imagine that Malaysia had outgrown the sordid events of 1997, the government’s newspapers bring to our breakfast tables each day Sodomy 2, to remind us that after another decade of sloganeering, as Tunku Zain Al-‘Abidin pointed out, we have come full circle to find ourselves back at the doorstep of our debased institutions and a Constitution that is increasingly inoperative.
The progress of the trial of the leader of the Opposition, the government’s apparent ignorance of the sovereign rights of the states and the way in which we have allowed religious issues to be manipulated, point to that conclusion. The constitutional crisis in Perak, in which a government has been installed by illegal means, the failure to implement two royal commissions of inquiry findings, point to that conclusion.
The barbarous political culture promoted by the establishment media brings us full circle, and drives home the point: our system of government is still in 1997. We are still in the after-wash of a wave of bad taste, authoritarianism and arbitrary power that destroyed our practice of parliamentary democracy, compromised our judiciary and police, and disenfranchised our people.
To modify Tunku’s words, we now have a democracy “existing in name, but grievously compromised in substance, reality and fact.”
Our penchant for slogans is a reflection of our dislocation from the living reality of constitutional and parliamentary democracy. We don’t need slogans. We need our Constitution back.
This, then, is the context in which IDEAS has adopted its noble purpose. The efforts of idealistic young people, attuned to the principles of parliamentary democracy and to our real history, and equipped with a plan to effect that purpose, are exactly what we need at this time. We need this and other such efforts from the young. They should not let their repugnance at the ugliness of our political system turn them away from it. It is precisely because we have a broken political system that it is so ugly. It is precisely because our main political parties are bound to infantile ethnic politics that we are now stagnant and declining as a country. Instead, I hope they see the mindlessness and ugliness of our present politics as a call to service.
I urge young people to rise to the task of changing our political system. We have left it to “the deranged” for too long as Tunku Zain Al-‘Abidin calls them. To expect change from the incumbents is to expect, in the Malay saying, the mice to repair the gourd…“Bagai tikus baiki labu-labu.”
It is time for us to understand, discuss, organise and act together.
Tunku was a true Malaysian. As we have forgotten him, we have also forgotten how to be Malaysians. We must learn again how to be free and equal citizens of a constitutional democracy. In our national life we must learn again how to be a Federation of sovereign states governed by the rule of law.
We have been robbed of our memory, and have had it replaced with slogans, but we have also been robbed of our country. Let us come together to recover both.
* This article is the personal opinion of the writer or publication. The Malaysian Insider does not endorse the view unless specified.
FEB 8 – Tunku Abdul Rahman was the founder of Malaysia. That has been obscured by an intervening period in which his memory has been brushed out of our national consciousness.
He brought together a Malaysia that had come together “through our own free will and desire in the true spirit of brotherhood and love of freedom”, in a union arrived at “by mutual consent by debate and discussion…through friendly argument and compromise,” and “in the spirit of co-operation and concord.”
This was the basis for Malaysia he worked for and established, and that his life embodied. That basis has been replaced by something alien to it, his memory has been suppressed, and our history revised.
Part of the reason our collective memory of Tunku has faded, and that Tunku would not recognise today’s Malaysia, is that Tunku and his generation built institutions that empowered the people rather than cults of personality to concentrate power and wealth in themselves. They reached instinctively for democratic decision-making. The concepts and precepts of constitutional democracy were part of their natural vocabulary and instinctive reactions. They knew who the country belonged to, and that they lived to serve.
The day of Tunku’s funeral was not even declared a public holiday. It is no accident that the erasure of his memory has gone hand in hand with the erosion of our institutions. Tunku built up a system of good civil service in which ordinary citizens did not need to see so-and-so to get things done. This has been replaced by a domineering style of leadership in which what you get done depends on who you know. Of course the rich and powerful have better connections.
In place of the protection for ordinary citizens guaranteed by popular representation, rule of law and the checks and balances of independent institutions, we have the cult of the great leader.
In place of a system which designed to assure the rights of the ordinary citizen we have a system re-designed around the interests of corporate and political bosses.
Ordinary Malaysians are disenfranchised of their rights to health, education and security. They are then patronised by leaders whose idea of public service is to go around like Father Christmas doling out gifts of resources which are really the property of the people. This turns citizens into supplicants. Our properties are converted into gifts from the great leader. Our rights are converted into permissions. Our country has become his country.
There has been, over the years since his passing, a quite deliberate erasure of our memory of Tunku. This should come as no surprise. He saw the wrong turn we were taking and he opposed it. He and several other leaders were excluded from UMNO Baru. He led a movement called Semangat 46. His conception of our politics and system of government had no place for corrupt practices, arbitrary executive power and the manipulation of racial and religious identity for political gain.
Tunku Abdul Rahman did not help us achieve independence and then the merger, alone. He led and worked with an entire class of individuals schooled in the culture and practice of parliamentary democracy. In politics and the civil service they thrived in a time before the machine politics of patronage and lowbrow identity politics had sucked the life and talent out of the ruling party and left it filled with people who quite simply don’t have the ability to hold this country together anymore.
The average age of our first cabinet was under thirty. Tun Razak was 28. Tun Dr Ismail was barely 30 years old. Men of their calibre would not have made it up the ladder of the party that has succeeded theirs. They would have been too untainted, too young to do so.
The IDEAS project looks back, then, not just to an individual but to an era in Malaysia’s brief history. It will promote the values and principles on which we were formed.
Over the course of that history we have not trodden a continuous path to the present day. There have been two regimes, or political dispensations, in the life of this country, young as she is.
The first began in the fifties and ended in 1970. The dispensation that followed came to a mortal crisis in 1997 and limped on to 2008. Against the background of those changes, what has followed the elections of March 2008 is hard to describe as anything but the detritus of a once-functioning political system.
If any one of us was tempted to imagine that Malaysia had outgrown the sordid events of 1997, the government’s newspapers bring to our breakfast tables each day Sodomy 2, to remind us that after another decade of sloganeering, as Tunku Zain Al-‘Abidin pointed out, we have come full circle to find ourselves back at the doorstep of our debased institutions and a Constitution that is increasingly inoperative.
The progress of the trial of the leader of the Opposition, the government’s apparent ignorance of the sovereign rights of the states and the way in which we have allowed religious issues to be manipulated, point to that conclusion. The constitutional crisis in Perak, in which a government has been installed by illegal means, the failure to implement two royal commissions of inquiry findings, point to that conclusion.
The barbarous political culture promoted by the establishment media brings us full circle, and drives home the point: our system of government is still in 1997. We are still in the after-wash of a wave of bad taste, authoritarianism and arbitrary power that destroyed our practice of parliamentary democracy, compromised our judiciary and police, and disenfranchised our people.
To modify Tunku’s words, we now have a democracy “existing in name, but grievously compromised in substance, reality and fact.”
Our penchant for slogans is a reflection of our dislocation from the living reality of constitutional and parliamentary democracy. We don’t need slogans. We need our Constitution back.
This, then, is the context in which IDEAS has adopted its noble purpose. The efforts of idealistic young people, attuned to the principles of parliamentary democracy and to our real history, and equipped with a plan to effect that purpose, are exactly what we need at this time. We need this and other such efforts from the young. They should not let their repugnance at the ugliness of our political system turn them away from it. It is precisely because we have a broken political system that it is so ugly. It is precisely because our main political parties are bound to infantile ethnic politics that we are now stagnant and declining as a country. Instead, I hope they see the mindlessness and ugliness of our present politics as a call to service.
I urge young people to rise to the task of changing our political system. We have left it to “the deranged” for too long as Tunku Zain Al-‘Abidin calls them. To expect change from the incumbents is to expect, in the Malay saying, the mice to repair the gourd…“Bagai tikus baiki labu-labu.”
It is time for us to understand, discuss, organise and act together.
Tunku was a true Malaysian. As we have forgotten him, we have also forgotten how to be Malaysians. We must learn again how to be free and equal citizens of a constitutional democracy. In our national life we must learn again how to be a Federation of sovereign states governed by the rule of law.
We have been robbed of our memory, and have had it replaced with slogans, but we have also been robbed of our country. Let us come together to recover both.
* This article is the personal opinion of the writer or publication. The Malaysian Insider does not endorse the view unless specified.
Sunday, February 7, 2010
SINGAPORE...........BETTER DON'T GO...........PENAT BETUL
http://blog.sina.com.tw/anitawu520/article.php?pbgid=47870&entryid=596501
MUST READ
REMEMBER, IF YOU BRING ALONG CIGAR, LIQUOR....MUST FILL-UP THE FORM FIRST......THE FUC**ING FACES OF OFFICER WILL ASK YOU TO PAY SGD 5000(RM12000)
REAL STORY!!!!
BETTER DON'T GO TO THIS KIND OF COUNTRY.................
UPSET AND RUIN YOUR MOOD!
MUST READ
REMEMBER, IF YOU BRING ALONG CIGAR, LIQUOR....MUST FILL-UP THE FORM FIRST......THE FUC**ING FACES OF OFFICER WILL ASK YOU TO PAY SGD 5000(RM12000)
REAL STORY!!!!
BETTER DON'T GO TO THIS KIND OF COUNTRY.................
UPSET AND RUIN YOUR MOOD!
NASIR FROM UMNO...SPEAK SO LOUD.....("the Chinese, especially the women, come here to 'jual tubuh' (flesh trade)"............BN WANITA SO QUIET???
Selian Seals:
insulting the Chinese females as prostitutes ("the Chinese, especially the women, come here to 'jual tubuh' (flesh trade)")Should MCA WANITA / DAP WANITA /PR WANITA and even UMNO WANITA sit duck with this insult? Where is all the NGO?If at all MIC...
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=317956270195&ref=nf&v=info#!/group.php?v=wall&ref=nf&gid=317956270195
insulting the Chinese females as prostitutes ("the Chinese, especially the women, come here to 'jual tubuh' (flesh trade)")Should MCA WANITA / DAP WANITA /PR WANITA and even UMNO WANITA sit duck with this insult? Where is all the NGO?If at all MIC...
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=317956270195&ref=nf&v=info#!/group.php?v=wall&ref=nf&gid=317956270195
taken Nasir to task???????????
Why hasn’t the PM taken Nasir to task?
Posted by: "Aliran" aliran@streamyx.com
Thu Feb 4, 2010 3:12 am (PST)
Aliran is totally disgusted with the way certain so-called political leaders behave and express themselves, completely ignoring the reality of this country and dismissing the history of this land. Without a care, they spew filth from their dirty mouths and seem hell-bent on creating havoc.
It is rather unfortunate that our top leaders do not castigate them or take them to task for the harm they are likely to cause to the unity of the various communities. They are very dangerous and can create misery for the majority of Malaysians who do not approve the conduct of these troublesome elements – in fact most Malaysians condemn such unscrupulous behaviour.
The latest outpouring of venom comes from the very top, from someone close to the Prime Minister himself. His top aide, Datuk Nasir Safar, threw caution to the winds, revealed his puerile mind and uttered some rubbish that is not supported by facts.
His offending remarks at a two-day 1 Malaysia seminar in Malacca yesterday were outlandish: “Indians came to Malaysia as beggars and Chinese especially the women came to sell their bodies.”
He even had the audacity to threaten that the government could revoke the citizenship of Indians any time if excessive demands were made by the community.
Another outlandish claim by him - that the (federal) constitution was drafted by Umno and that other parties were not involved - only goes to show how daft he could be. Let’s not forget history. The Federal Constitution is the product of our shared and joint commitment to the creation of an independent state which was then known as Malaya.
Does he even realise that there was a Malaya before Malaysia?
He had, of course, denied having said all these offensive words.
That’s what they all say whenever there is a strong reaction to their derogatory remarks.
If Nasir did not utter these seditious words, and if he was indeed misquoted and misrepresented by those who were present, then Datuk, sue them! That is the only solution before you to safeguard your dignity and preserve your integrity.
You cannot hoodwink the rest of the country with your unconvincing explanation and denial.
When people like Nasir are not taken to task and disciplined publicly, we have a situation where it is assumed that there is a tacit approval from the top to carry on.
We have the case of Datuk Ahmad Ismail of Penang who was slapped with a three-year suspension of his Umno membership for calling the Chinese “pendatang”. The strong reaction from the Chinese community, forced the hand of Umno to take a firm stand on this issue.
But recently that three-year suspension was lifted, drastically reducing the sentence and making Ahmad’s crime appear not that grave after all.
Then we had the cow-head incident, the Allah demonstration, the Perkasa launch all of which only demonstrated that there are no stopping people who go overboard with their offensive remarks.
If only the Prime Minister and his Deputy had condemned the behaviour of these elements in very strong and unequivocal terms from the very beginning, then the
message would have been conveyed that no nonsense would be tolerated. We would not be in this difficult situation today – simply because they failed us as our national leaders.
If the PM does not address this serious issue sincerely and forthrightly, it will be the undoing of his premiership; it will be goodbye to his 1 Malaysia slogan.
While he is trying to proclaim his 1 Malaysia policy, there are elements all over the country undoing our unity and harmony.
We have them in our schools, our universities, in the police, in the judiciary, in the civil service and other places of influence and power poisoning minds and polluting the body politic.
If they are not weeded out and severely punished, we will no longer be the model country for a plural society.
Nasir’s resignation is not going to obviate his crime or lessen his offence.
He owes an apology not only to the Chinese Malaysian and Indian Malaysian communities but to the entire nation whose peace and harmony could have been
affected by his callous remarks.
It is not sufficient for the PM to distance himself from Nasir’s insensitive and seditious remarks.
He must order him to apologise unreservedly. The PM must ensure that Nasir is not recycled to head other entities or appointed a director to any business concern.
He must be punished and must be seen to have been punished. Only then would it be seen as meaningful redress of this grievous wrong.
P Ramakrishnan
President
4 February 2010
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道歉却没有认错！
一位小学生犯了作弊罪，被抓到了。
他痛哭流泪，坦诚认错，并承认作弊是错的，并答应不再犯，也向爱护他的老师同学们道歉。
纳西做错了事，说出大逆不道的话。首相说他已知错，也得到了惩罚。
纳西也发文告向大家道歉，并解释他的本意不是要侮辱其他种族。
问题是：纳西有承认他的想法，他的思想是错误的吗？他有像哪位小学生一样认为作弊是错的，而承认自己的想法是错的吗？
纳吉正在推广一个马来西亚，所以不允许他说出如此极端的言论。但如被允许的话，他会继续说出这种极端的话吗？
纳西在道歉时，也重申他不是种族极端分子。如果真的话，全体巫统党员没一个是种族极端分子，那真的是国家的大幸呀！发表寄居论的党员不是种族极端分子；叫华人滚回唐山的也不是极端分子；要剥夺人家公民权的人也不是极端分子，我们华人真太幸福了，政府里没有一个官员是极端分子。马华太幸福了，不用再灭火。
误痛里，不止一个纳西，而是有千千万万个纳西。更令人担忧的，这些“纳西”绝对不会有事的。一个马来西亚创始人也不会对付这些人的。不信的话，看看2011年，2012年。。。。仍然有无数的纳西出现，刺激你我的神经，侮辱你我的娘亲。
他，辞职了。受到处罚了吧？嘿嘿，政府里大把职位让他去选，他不会挨饿的，放心。这种处罚对他来讲真是“湿湿碎”。
除非，他“竟然”被控上庭，“竟然”被判有罪，那，我一定投国阵一票。
Posted by Alfanso at 下午1:27
Labels: 小市民的心声
comments:
鱼米之乡 说...
死不认错，永不改过；是他们的特征！
要他们认错，不如我们该过（换政府）
http://lpslkh.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-post.html
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
不要假假啦
一個向來溫和的老坑突然說了一句大逆不道的話, 頓時給人公幹.
他不只馬上下野, 連向來春袋不是很大粒的馬華民政, 更是幹得如火如荼, 聲嘶力歇, 連內安法令和取消老坑公民權也喊了出來.
嗯...如果這麼一句話可以引起那麼大的效果, 那麼馬華早該拉着他們的律師團和前鋒報對着幹啦, 民政黨在那條瘋狗撕照片時, 就應該上街遊行了.
還有舉牛頭示威呢? 那簡直是刑事罪啦. 別的不說, 以這次大家的反應作為標準, 單單老馬所說的話已經足夠使他被驅逐出境了, 是不是?
反正來去就是那套啦, 不知那個手癢的燒教堂惹了眾怒, 傻海老坑說錯話正好給我們下下火. 此消彼長一下. 我們這些順民都明白遊戲規則的, 順風順勢不是隨你起舞囉. 時不與我就裝傻囉. 還能怎樣?
不要假假啦. 你以為我們傻的咩? 看馬華民政的勇態, 就知道有了understanding 啦.
刊登于風雲時報之藍粑話語
(類似討論看波波的陰謀論)
Posted by Botak at 00:01
Labels: 風雲時報之藍粑話語
11 comments:
Fair仔 said...
据说那老头是蒙古女郎案件的关系人物。监督过程然后禀报主子。
这些做近身奴才的最基本的条件是会看老板的眉头眼额，什么话应该讲不应该讲不会不知道。
人家花了人民２千万请宣传策略公司想一个口号，不是小事一壮。 敢这样讲的一定是有一个重量级的人在撑腰。
8 February 2010 00:15
波波 said...
咦包頂頸光頭你還真的quote我？！
人家我很低調的咧──！
8 February 2010 00:28
Fair仔 said...
楼上的。。。这里最高调是你了。
8 February 2010 00:43
波波 said...
妖～死人頭Fair仔，人家天生麗質是要怎樣？
你是不是眼睛很紅？
8 February 2010 00:46
Fair仔 said...
天生丽质， 连话多也是天生的。。。
8 February 2010 00:53
DaNieL_YiP 大牛叶 said...
我反对！
我认为丽质与多话都是后天的。
PS：又见阴毛...
8 February 2010 01:04
Botak said...
FAIR仔 : 現在我們什麼事情都以陰謀的眼光去看. 基本上你不能相信你眼睛看到的, 而要去想.
波波: 你低調????????????
FAIR仔: give me a five!
大牛: 你是說, 多話和天生麗質都是陰謀?
8 February 2010 01:17
Khien Hwa said...
马华民政，识时务为俊杰也！
8 February 2010 01:21
Fair仔 said...
botak， five吾够！俾够１０！
8 February 2010 01:24
二楼后座-passover said...
飘风不终朝，暴雨不终日。
事物推到极致，就可以清晰看出方向。
夏虫不可以语于冰者，笃于时也。
投机对于现代政客来讲，机会和时机是一切。
但是细微的变化，辅以种种点缀，他们的思维就会随着想当然的利己方向转动。
知其雄，守其雌。
知其白，守其黑。
最近当权者的智囊团，鸽鹰齐放，黑白玩得出色，真假做得落力，不得不慎也。
8 February 2010 02:15
幸运猪 said...
真的假不了，假的真不了，做场戏，好过年嘛！
http://botakray.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-post_08.html
Posted by: "Aliran" aliran@streamyx.com
Thu Feb 4, 2010 3:12 am (PST)
Aliran is totally disgusted with the way certain so-called political leaders behave and express themselves, completely ignoring the reality of this country and dismissing the history of this land. Without a care, they spew filth from their dirty mouths and seem hell-bent on creating havoc.
It is rather unfortunate that our top leaders do not castigate them or take them to task for the harm they are likely to cause to the unity of the various communities. They are very dangerous and can create misery for the majority of Malaysians who do not approve the conduct of these troublesome elements – in fact most Malaysians condemn such unscrupulous behaviour.
The latest outpouring of venom comes from the very top, from someone close to the Prime Minister himself. His top aide, Datuk Nasir Safar, threw caution to the winds, revealed his puerile mind and uttered some rubbish that is not supported by facts.
His offending remarks at a two-day 1 Malaysia seminar in Malacca yesterday were outlandish: “Indians came to Malaysia as beggars and Chinese especially the women came to sell their bodies.”
He even had the audacity to threaten that the government could revoke the citizenship of Indians any time if excessive demands were made by the community.
Another outlandish claim by him - that the (federal) constitution was drafted by Umno and that other parties were not involved - only goes to show how daft he could be. Let’s not forget history. The Federal Constitution is the product of our shared and joint commitment to the creation of an independent state which was then known as Malaya.
Does he even realise that there was a Malaya before Malaysia?
He had, of course, denied having said all these offensive words.
That’s what they all say whenever there is a strong reaction to their derogatory remarks.
If Nasir did not utter these seditious words, and if he was indeed misquoted and misrepresented by those who were present, then Datuk, sue them! That is the only solution before you to safeguard your dignity and preserve your integrity.
You cannot hoodwink the rest of the country with your unconvincing explanation and denial.
When people like Nasir are not taken to task and disciplined publicly, we have a situation where it is assumed that there is a tacit approval from the top to carry on.
We have the case of Datuk Ahmad Ismail of Penang who was slapped with a three-year suspension of his Umno membership for calling the Chinese “pendatang”. The strong reaction from the Chinese community, forced the hand of Umno to take a firm stand on this issue.
But recently that three-year suspension was lifted, drastically reducing the sentence and making Ahmad’s crime appear not that grave after all.
Then we had the cow-head incident, the Allah demonstration, the Perkasa launch all of which only demonstrated that there are no stopping people who go overboard with their offensive remarks.
If only the Prime Minister and his Deputy had condemned the behaviour of these elements in very strong and unequivocal terms from the very beginning, then the
message would have been conveyed that no nonsense would be tolerated. We would not be in this difficult situation today – simply because they failed us as our national leaders.
If the PM does not address this serious issue sincerely and forthrightly, it will be the undoing of his premiership; it will be goodbye to his 1 Malaysia slogan.
While he is trying to proclaim his 1 Malaysia policy, there are elements all over the country undoing our unity and harmony.
We have them in our schools, our universities, in the police, in the judiciary, in the civil service and other places of influence and power poisoning minds and polluting the body politic.
If they are not weeded out and severely punished, we will no longer be the model country for a plural society.
Nasir’s resignation is not going to obviate his crime or lessen his offence.
He owes an apology not only to the Chinese Malaysian and Indian Malaysian communities but to the entire nation whose peace and harmony could have been
affected by his callous remarks.
It is not sufficient for the PM to distance himself from Nasir’s insensitive and seditious remarks.
He must order him to apologise unreservedly. The PM must ensure that Nasir is not recycled to head other entities or appointed a director to any business concern.
He must be punished and must be seen to have been punished. Only then would it be seen as meaningful redress of this grievous wrong.
P Ramakrishnan
President
4 February 2010
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2010年2月7日 星期日
道歉却没有认错！
一位小学生犯了作弊罪，被抓到了。
他痛哭流泪，坦诚认错，并承认作弊是错的，并答应不再犯，也向爱护他的老师同学们道歉。
纳西做错了事，说出大逆不道的话。首相说他已知错，也得到了惩罚。
纳西也发文告向大家道歉，并解释他的本意不是要侮辱其他种族。
问题是：纳西有承认他的想法，他的思想是错误的吗？他有像哪位小学生一样认为作弊是错的，而承认自己的想法是错的吗？
纳吉正在推广一个马来西亚，所以不允许他说出如此极端的言论。但如被允许的话，他会继续说出这种极端的话吗？
纳西在道歉时，也重申他不是种族极端分子。如果真的话，全体巫统党员没一个是种族极端分子，那真的是国家的大幸呀！发表寄居论的党员不是种族极端分子；叫华人滚回唐山的也不是极端分子；要剥夺人家公民权的人也不是极端分子，我们华人真太幸福了，政府里没有一个官员是极端分子。马华太幸福了，不用再灭火。
误痛里，不止一个纳西，而是有千千万万个纳西。更令人担忧的，这些“纳西”绝对不会有事的。一个马来西亚创始人也不会对付这些人的。不信的话，看看2011年，2012年。。。。仍然有无数的纳西出现，刺激你我的神经，侮辱你我的娘亲。
他，辞职了。受到处罚了吧？嘿嘿，政府里大把职位让他去选，他不会挨饿的，放心。这种处罚对他来讲真是“湿湿碎”。
除非，他“竟然”被控上庭，“竟然”被判有罪，那，我一定投国阵一票。
Posted by Alfanso at 下午1:27
Labels: 小市民的心声
comments:
鱼米之乡 说...
死不认错，永不改过；是他们的特征！
要他们认错，不如我们该过（换政府）
http://lpslkh.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-post.html
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
不要假假啦
一個向來溫和的老坑突然說了一句大逆不道的話, 頓時給人公幹.
他不只馬上下野, 連向來春袋不是很大粒的馬華民政, 更是幹得如火如荼, 聲嘶力歇, 連內安法令和取消老坑公民權也喊了出來.
嗯...如果這麼一句話可以引起那麼大的效果, 那麼馬華早該拉着他們的律師團和前鋒報對着幹啦, 民政黨在那條瘋狗撕照片時, 就應該上街遊行了.
還有舉牛頭示威呢? 那簡直是刑事罪啦. 別的不說, 以這次大家的反應作為標準, 單單老馬所說的話已經足夠使他被驅逐出境了, 是不是?
反正來去就是那套啦, 不知那個手癢的燒教堂惹了眾怒, 傻海老坑說錯話正好給我們下下火. 此消彼長一下. 我們這些順民都明白遊戲規則的, 順風順勢不是隨你起舞囉. 時不與我就裝傻囉. 還能怎樣?
不要假假啦. 你以為我們傻的咩? 看馬華民政的勇態, 就知道有了understanding 啦.
刊登于風雲時報之藍粑話語
(類似討論看波波的陰謀論)
Posted by Botak at 00:01
Labels: 風雲時報之藍粑話語
11 comments:
Fair仔 said...
据说那老头是蒙古女郎案件的关系人物。监督过程然后禀报主子。
这些做近身奴才的最基本的条件是会看老板的眉头眼额，什么话应该讲不应该讲不会不知道。
人家花了人民２千万请宣传策略公司想一个口号，不是小事一壮。 敢这样讲的一定是有一个重量级的人在撑腰。
8 February 2010 00:15
波波 said...
咦包頂頸光頭你還真的quote我？！
人家我很低調的咧──！
8 February 2010 00:28
Fair仔 said...
楼上的。。。这里最高调是你了。
8 February 2010 00:43
波波 said...
妖～死人頭Fair仔，人家天生麗質是要怎樣？
你是不是眼睛很紅？
8 February 2010 00:46
Fair仔 said...
天生丽质， 连话多也是天生的。。。
8 February 2010 00:53
DaNieL_YiP 大牛叶 said...
我反对！
我认为丽质与多话都是后天的。
PS：又见阴毛...
8 February 2010 01:04
Botak said...
FAIR仔 : 現在我們什麼事情都以陰謀的眼光去看. 基本上你不能相信你眼睛看到的, 而要去想.
波波: 你低調????????????
FAIR仔: give me a five!
大牛: 你是說, 多話和天生麗質都是陰謀?
8 February 2010 01:17
Khien Hwa said...
马华民政，识时务为俊杰也！
8 February 2010 01:21
Fair仔 said...
botak， five吾够！俾够１０！
8 February 2010 01:24
二楼后座-passover said...
飘风不终朝，暴雨不终日。
事物推到极致，就可以清晰看出方向。
夏虫不可以语于冰者，笃于时也。
投机对于现代政客来讲，机会和时机是一切。
但是细微的变化，辅以种种点缀，他们的思维就会随着想当然的利己方向转动。
知其雄，守其雌。
知其白，守其黑。
最近当权者的智囊团，鸽鹰齐放，黑白玩得出色，真假做得落力，不得不慎也。
8 February 2010 02:15
幸运猪 said...
真的假不了，假的真不了，做场戏，好过年嘛！
http://botakray.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-post_08.html
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